Water heater woes....

2008-08-31 23:16:50

Whilst putting on a door from the kitchen to the laundry room, I went down to the basement to see if I had a circular saw still. I noticed there was an awful lot of water on the floor and in the wrong place (there's usually water down there). Turns out, there was water running DOWN my hot water heater. At first I thought a fitting was leaking -- then I realized the leak was from in the HWH itself. I turned off the cold feed and the pilot -- someone turned on the water upstairs and I heard it sucking air in through the top of the tank (never a good thing). SO, this Christmas just got more than a tad dicey. A new unit will be just about $300 (we need a shorty forty). The real kicker? The new units cost MORE to operate than the 6 year old model we have now! How on earth is it that we're 5-6 years later and the EnergyGuide numbers are higher than back then? <Grumble therms/btus, recovery rate, and so forth are on this other model so I'm guessing that would account for the difference but it's gotta make ya wonder!!! James

garage door redux

2008-08-31 15:02:36

The gear was completely worn away that's why nothing was moving. All fixed now. Thanks for the help. Sunny

garage door opener

2008-08-31 08:36:14

My husband disengaged the garage door this morning because it was misbehaving. I was too sleepy to ask him what the problem was. I want to hook it back up so I can see what was wrong but don't know how to do that. It has one of those pull cords he pulled. Usually when it has had problems it has just been that the little lenses are dirty so I want to check if that is the problem before calling in a pro. So how do I hook the opener back up after the cord has been pulled to disengage it, anybody know? Sunny

[DIY] garage door opener

2008-08-31 08:26:33

You should be able to push the pin back up into the carrier until it snaps into position (the pin is what your hubby pulled to release the door) then when the garage door arm comes in contact with the carrier it will catch onto it and start working again. At least that's how mine works. Mike

[DIY] Bathroom tearout

2008-08-31 03:53:55

Welcome to the group, Karol. I am in nearly the same situation you are in. I have begun the process by removing the tub tiles and ceramic backer board. The tub seems like it would come right up but since mine is also cast iron the job needs two or three hands. So I need to wait for help from friends. I was planning on having the tub refinished but it would cost more than putting a new one in and I cannot imagine that it would look as good. Are you planning on putting ceramic tile on the walls? I have decided on putting in this special tub surround that comes in tile form and is very sturdy. You can order it from HD and it comes in sheets. It also does not look as "cheap" as the usual plain white tub surround. On the floor I am planning on 12"ceramic. Let's keep in touch and see if we can help one another. Joe In a message dated 12/14/2004 9:34:52 PM Central Standard Time, karol@... writes:

Room outlet problem

2008-08-30 18:52:19

I'm having a problem with the elec. outlets in my daughter's room. I set up her computer in our livingroom...and then moved it to her room. The tower just beeps non-stop, and does not boot up. The monitor won't even come on. I took everything off the surge strip, and plugged directly into the wall...same thing happened. I've tried all the outlets in her room, with no luck. (She has a TV, CD player, lamps, etc...all in there, with no problems.) I finally took the tower back out to the livingroom, plugged it in, and it booted up fine. WHAT is going on with these outlets? TIA! Bett

Mounting overhead kitchen cabinets

2008-08-30 14:36:01

I was given two sets of cabinets...the ones that hang @ eye level. I need to know if it's possible for me to hang them by myself, and how to do it. TIA, Bett

water in basement

2008-08-30 01:27:10

Hi there, I have a question about moisture and water in the basement. My home is on a slope and the basemement has had water each winter during the raining season. The water comes in 2 ways: 1. Through the joints in the concrete floor: I fixed this by putting a sump pump into the floor right at that spot and that worked extremely well. 2. Through the cold joints between the concrete wall and the concrete floor. The concrete wall has about 5 feet of soil on the outside, so it is actually pretty good. However, I am not quite sure how to fix this. Do I open the concrete floor along the wall and put a french drain underneath that runs into the sump pump basin that I already put in ? That doesn't sound like the right solution since the water is not pressed through the floor but the joint between the floor and the wall. Eventually, I would like to put tile on the floor so I want to make sure that I fix this problem. Any idea, please let me know :-) Thanks Daniel

stray voltage loop

2008-08-30 00:28:14

by just looking at the wiring arrangement in the switch boxit appears to many as though the nuetral and the ground are the same thing but they are definitely not. the proper path for the electric is from the power copany and back to the power company which is theoretically the easiest path. the ground system is an alternate in case of some disruption purely for the sake of safety Now you want to add another box. It could be right next to the original or it could be in another part of the house away from the original.The code only allows you to ground from the original box where the power company feed comes into the house. you cannot put another ground wire into the gound from another location. So what you are doing is adding anothe buss bar to the nuetral and another to the ground buss.In effect it is really one box in two locations, with one grounding post. A loop takes too long to explain here, but that is why it is done that way. Also each black wire needs its own white wire to isolate each circuit. Don't try to feed two black wires with one white one, and don't cross over or "mixup" two circuits with different white wires. If you do you will never be certain that a tripped breaker has actually shut off a circuit.

electrical heater loads,drating,80% ????

2008-08-29 17:43:06

you are way off base. the maximum load for 120 volts X 15 amps is 1800 watts. You need 120 volts X 20 amps to get 2400 watts. This will require 12 guage wire and a 20 amp fuse or breaker. Any shortcuts are hazardous.

Replacing fused subpanel with breakers subpanel

2008-08-29 10:27:29

If you put in a sub-panel you must disconnect the ground/nuetral connection in the subpanel and run a wire between the two grounding bars. its the same code no matter where you live. There can only be one ground in the house.You can run another wire between the nuetral bus bars also. This prevents a stray voltage loop .

[DIY] Hard wired appliances

2008-08-29 01:28:32

No reson it wouldn't work the only issue I see is the added room needed for the box for the female plug. Mike

derating electrical heater load to 80 percent

2008-08-28 23:54:37

How safe is it to go beyond the max. 80% of the derated max load for electric heating. I can go 2880 watts of electric heat, derated 80% from 3600 watts using a 15 amp breaker (14/2 wire). After I reconfigure my baseboards, by removing some and adding others, I will end up with 3000 watts, or at 83.3% derated. I read in an electrical code handbook written by a former electrical inspector that the whole issue of derating can be dismissed and that you can actually use 100% of the wire and breaker load, essentially carrying the full 3600 watts of electric heating. I was taken aback at that, since my issue of his book didn't say that, but the latest issue essentially says that they are static loads and can safely predict how much power they draw out. I tried to confirm this with other sources out there, both in print and in person with experts, but could not corroborate this theory. Anyhow, back to my original question: is 3000 watts okay for a 15amp 14/2 wire for eletrical heater load?

Hard wired appliances

2008-08-28 15:24:32

OK guys, don't laugh. I was thinking the other day. I replaced six lights, mostly with fans. I was thinking, if I wired in a female plug, in the ceiling, could I wire in a male plug in the actual appliance. This way when it was time to change them, it would be a simple matter of unplugging one and plugging the other in. It would make it pretty simple. I thought it would be easier also to wire in the male end while you had the light down on the table were it would be easier to work with. Then just lift it up and plug it in and screw it up and done. OK, is this a possibility, or wouldn't it work? You guys seem to be way more familiar with electricity than I am. Thanks. MC

[DIY] sundry: the definition...

2008-08-28 10:14:39

After another look at the ad I guess the term would go well with a "Chaos Queen" Joe In a message dated 12/9/2004 7:02:59 PM Central Standard Time, flamnembr@... writes: why did i say "sundry children?" since no one in their right mind would go near a woman with this many children, it is a non-committal term that describes them rather well-- haphazard, assorted sizes, miscellaneous

intermittent ignition device

2008-08-28 07:12:56

Hello, I currently have a propane furnace with a pilot light. I was wondering if there was an intermittent ignition device that I could fit into my furnace. Also, does such a device to retro fit a propane water heater exist? Does anyone know how much fuel a pilot light uses? Thanks for your help. Michael wonder the same with a propane water heater. Thanks for the help. Michael

[DIY] Hardware frustrations Re: a simple woman's experience at

2008-08-27 23:23:00

Perhaps I should not ask but for the odd phrasing... "sundry" children? Joe

Just a funny

2008-08-27 14:51:48

08Dec04 Hello Members, Thought a small bit of humor was needed after all those ?????-n-one tool wars and the Phd engeineering of Christmas tree lights. So enjoy the following that has both the humor and truth. Enjoy, jdb Prison VS. Work Just in case you ever got the two mixed up, This should make things a bit more clear.... IN PRISON...you spend the majority of your time in an 8X10 cell. AT WORK...you spend the majority of your time in a 6X8 cubicle. IN PRISON...you get three meals a day. AT WORK...you only get a break for one meal and you pay for it. IN PRISON...you get time off for good behavior. AT WORK...you get more work for good behavior. IN PRISON...the guard locks and unlocks all the doors for you. AT WORK...you must carry around a security card and open all the doors for yourself. IN PRISON...you can watch TV and play games. AT WORK...you get fired for watching TV and playing games. IN PRISON...you get your own toilet. AT WORK... you have to share with some idiot who pees on the toilet. IN PRISON...they allow your family and friends to visit. AT WORK...you can't speak to your family. IN PRISON...all expenses are paid by the taxpayers with no work required. AT WORK...you get to pay all the expenses to go to work and then they deduct taxes from your salary to pay for prisoners. IN PRISON...you spend most of your life inside bars wanting to get out. AT WORK...you spend most of your time wanting to get out and go inside bars. IN PRISON...you must deal with sadistic wardens. AT WORK...they are called managers.

Motion sensor plug-in - can't find

2008-08-27 12:40:43

Hi, I'm trying to find a motion sensor plug-in. Essentially, I need a motion sensor that I can plug into an outlet and then plug something else into it. This will be used to plug in a set of low level lighting hidden below the edge of the kitchen cabinets -- that way there's some lighting when someone comes in from outside or just walking through during the night... The only one's I have found online have been related to fully integrated home automation systems (my wife says i can't spend that much!!!). Radio Shack didn't have anything either. Stores? Website? Thanks Casey B. Chelsea, Michigan

Generator recommendations

2008-08-27 00:06:26

I am considering getting a generator as a back up power source for our home. I would need it to run the water pump for our well as well as the electric start on my oil forced hot air heating system. On top of all that I would like to be able to keep the refrigerators running and we also has an electric stove. What size generator would you all recommend? At Home Depot I saw a few in the 5000, 6000 watt range. Would they be big enough to handle my home power setup or should I go even higher into the 7000 range? Thanks in advance for your help. Roger

radial arm or table saw?

2008-08-26 21:18:50

I have a good chop saw (compound). My basic shop use is household general stuff; though soon I'm going to start building some kitchen- style cabinets; possibly some clocks; maybe an entertainment center. If I must have both saws, I could probably make it work. Please let me know what you thank. Jim... I have a radial arm saw. Don't own a chop or table saw (yet). Surprise! If I had a good chop saw, I'd buy a table saw rather than a radial arm. The chop saw will handle most cross cuts while the table saw with a sled can handle the big cross cuts. So now for the rip cuts...I hate my RAS for rips. Never felt safe...never will (to me). No matter where I stand, to get to the other side of a cut requires reaching around the vertical columm or a spinning blade. With a table saw, there is no vertical columm...and the amount of potentially exposed blade is way less. I've heard the following argued both ways, but personally I think a table saw is generally more precise. The length of the vertical column and reach of the radial arm is a source of more "slop" than what I think exists in a RAS. Personal opinion...my next large saw purchase will be a table saw. Ideally with a sliding table. Joel

Sluggish Toilet

2008-08-26 20:54:01

I have developed a problem with a sluggish toilet. This is the toilet in the master bedroom and the drain line ties in really quickly (in terms of linear feet) with the only other toilet in my house. The other toilet is working fine. Problem is that there just does not seem to be as much flushing action with this toilet. In unpleasant terms, the solid stuff does not always completely go away. In the past, a push with the plungger has taken care of this problem but now, that is just not curing the problem. If it is working halfway does this mean that there could be some sort of blockage just near the base of this toilet that does not affect the other? How can I get rid of it. Seems like it just needs a good push. Is there a DIY solution? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ande

Tis the season for electrical stupidity

2008-08-26 06:23:35

At Home Depot we know the Christmas season has arrived when all three of these things happen: 1. Our first shipment of Christmas trees arrives 2. Our music vendor starts playing nothing but Christmas carols 3. And someone asks for a male-to-male AC adapter. The M - T - M adapter is used when you decided to drink a whole case of wine before hanging the Christmas lights because no one is this stupid without chemical assistance. You put up the first strand of lights, plug it in, then put up the second strand of lights without checking which end you're dealing with. Next thing you know, the female ends of both strands are right next to each other and you can't plug them together. Instead of running an extension cord between the female end of the first set and the male end of the second (good), taking the second strand off and putting it back on correctly (better) or plugging all of the lights together before you try putting them on the tree (best), off to Home Depot you go for a male-to-male adapter. We don't have them. No one else has them. I'm pretty sure it's illegal to make such a thing. And even if it wasn't, you shouldn't use such a thing because you'll either kill your cat, kill your kids, or burn your house down. Do you really want live 110-volt electricity poking out the top of your Christmas tree? Do it right. Doin' it wrong ain't worth it. A message from the Grinch Who Made You Take Down 80 Feet of Christmas Lights. --jim

Possum - the other white meat &amp; ventless heater

2008-08-26 01:55:57

In our last house, we had a free-standing vermont castings propane fired stove but it was vented like a woodstove through the roof and it worked great even when the electricity was off. It looked just like a real fire (well almost) when it was burning. We did have a blower on it which we used when the electricity was on. One thing though - I think these type of stoves have a trickle electric start so if the electricity is off you won't be able to ignite it. The stove would have to be running already when the electricity goes off - there must be some other type with a battery back up in this day and age but I am unfamiliar. We also had a propane wall heater but that too was vented through the roof with a pipe through the wall like a bathroom vent is. This also worked well - we had that in our bedroom which was downstairs and since heat doesn't sink - we needed a source of heat down there too. Linda

My first-of-the-year project

2008-08-26 00:22:23

Today I learned that my store is purchasing a house, converting it into a handicapped residence, and donating it to the Army for them to use to train severely wounded soldiers--amputees, brain damage, and other life-changing injuries (we have paratroopers here; guys are coming down (pun not intended) with life-changing injuries all the time)--to live normally. I also learned that I'm lead carpenter on this project. Anyone got any suggestions? -- --jmowreader

killing roof moss

2008-08-25 19:30:10

Zinc is for moss. Copper is for algae. If there is an ABC Supply store in your area, go there. They will have it. -- --jmowreader

my grass is dieing!! - desert lawn care...

2008-08-25 08:23:10

ok folks as an ex landscaper this stuff is driving me nuts. my lawn is dieing and i dont know why. i think its time to fertilize and thatch the lawn but having lived in massachuseets arround this time thats just what the grass does. but how do i keep my lawn fresh and green here in arizona? any help would be ausome!

what nails to use- 1/8" wood floor

2008-08-25 00:54:07

Hi I want to lay tiles - somebody had put down (luan wood ?) it is very thin sheets of wood. He repaired plywood below that and evened all out with this application. Some areas he never tacked down and I want to secure it. What type of nail do I use? Thank you in advance Lucie

Double pane double hung window problem

2008-08-24 23:58:12

I have a problem with some windows that I have never seen before. A set of double hung,double pane windows on the front of the house will acutally bow out during cold weather. It is very noticeable if you look at the sill, top down. You can see how the gap between the window and front face of the sill goes from very small to ~1/4 inch. Now the worse problem. One of the panes on one of the windows finally had enough and cracked. Two questions. 1. What causes this problem? 2. Is it a DIY fix? How would this be done. Thanks you for your help. Tom Geiger

15-in-one

2008-08-24 15:47:26

OK, never in a million years would I have ever even noticed this thing, except for reading about all the ____ in 1's on this list! But.... I was in Dollar General (a very discount store here in SC) looking for a quart of motor oil as my check engine light came on today and I am WAY past my oil change... and I saw - a 15-in-1 gadget for the low, low price of $3. To me, it was not anywhere near as impressive as some of the others I have heard described here - I am taking a trip to Lowe's tomorrow to check them out - but did think I should mention it as it is the highest number I've seen yet!

fireplace final (I hope)

2008-08-24 07:32:00

I opened the outside vent and no blockage. The gas company, although they said they wouldn't handle it, said it wouldn't be air in the line. I figured if it was dangerous to even turn it on the gas company would have told me. So after I had turned the whole thing off once including the pilot and let it rest, and then got the pilot light and the gas going again...what it took was just having the guts to leave it turned on when the flame died out. Instinct told me to run and shut off the switch. Eventually though I found that the flame would start again if I just waited. After doing that over and over it is now starting and staying on pretty well. I think it had a lot of buildup or something from burning the pilot light constantly but just being used a couple time a year. At least now I know a lot more about it and I know how to turn the pilot light off during the warm half of the year. Thanks for the suggestions, Sunny

differences b/w impact wrenches, drivers, hammer drills, etc.

2008-08-24 00:21:09

Can someone explain the differences between an impact wrench and an impact driver? What about hammer drills and rotary hammer drills? Is one type of drill meant for one purpose only, or can one drill do more than one function? If I wanted to drill into concrete what would I use? Or, if I wanted extreme torque on my drilling of screws, what would I use?

How to paint ceiling tiles black

2008-08-23 23:12:29

Or any color, really, including white for touchups. This little block of instruction is motivated by some reading I did about the Station Night Club fire. This was the blaze in West Warwick, Rhode Island, where the band Great White set off a small piece of pyrotechnics called a "gerb" that wound up burning the building down, killing 100 and injuring a couple hundred more. The major malefactor in this fire (besides the fact that the idiots in the band couldn't look at the place and think "gee, maybe this hall is a little bit small to be setting off pyro in") was the lowest-in-class polyurethane foam the cheap bastards who owned the place used to soundproof it. But check this out: they wanted a black acoustical ceiling. Acoustical ceiling tile absorbs paint better than most sponges, so if you use just paint--or even primer--you'll use a lot of paint and a lot of time. Result: they painted the ceiling with roofing tar. The tar caught fire, melted and dripped onto the paying customers, sending some to the hospital with burns from molten tar. You can paint your ceiling tiles black, or any color you like for that matter, without applying one gallon per tile or using tar--I cannot fathom how bad this place stank on a normal basis if they were using tar as ceiling paint--by using plain old Elmer's Glue-All. Just mix one part Elmer's with one part paint and brush on. The glue thickens the paint enough that it won't soak into the tile. Most light colors should be coverable with one coat of glue-paint. Dark colors will probably need a second coat of pure paint. -- --jmowreader

Phone Line

2008-08-23 16:29:57

Hi I am new to the group. I just tried to put a new phone jack into my extra bedroom but for some reason it is not working. I attached all four wires, because the other jacks are connected that way. I don't really know where to look next. Thanks

11 in 1 ????

2008-08-23 09:23:50

Just went to www.reddevil.com and now under painters tools they are touting a 11 in 1. I think these people are trying to out do the Swiss Army Knife. Dale

How to Align a Border (in Center)

2008-08-23 08:52:58

Hello all, you're going to love this one... DH and I just finished drywalling and finishing the drywall of our back room (dining room, utility/laundry room). Just as we were getting ready to paint it last night, it dawned on us that we want to move the water heater from the place we just moved it to because 1. it is in the way of the large window A/C unit-so come this summer we will essentially be cooling the water heater 2. It is "against" the wall but in the middle of the wall rather than off to the side-we moved it so I could finally have my washer and dryer right next to each other instead of a yard apart, leaving the H2O Heater out in the cold. Anyhoo...we are going to put it on the other side of the A/C (opposite of the direction it will be blowing) where we had/have planned to make a pantry and then enclose it in that; taking up valuable canned goods space, but I can live with that since we are remodeling the kitchen and getting more cupboards in the spring. QUESTION: What is the LEAST destructive way to move the water heater? The pipes will not be a problem, we will be running them along the floor since this side of the room is basically a utility area and most will be enclosed later. The problem is tearing into NEW finished drywall to get the wiring moved over about 5 feet or so. The wiring runs along the bottom studs (whatever they are called) but DH wants to cut out about a foot up from the floor...is there a BETTER way that electricians or other professionals maybe use to guide wires without tearing into a wall? Thanks for any guidance on this!!!! Kati In Iowa BRRRRR!

I just found an 8 in 1 !!

2008-08-23 04:08:50

I found an 8 in 1 by Allway !! It has a screw driver socket in the hammer end and a small nail puller along with the puttyknife/tileknife/paintroller scraper/paintcan opener and???

[DIY] fireplace again

2008-08-22 12:39:00

"shouldn't it be a blue flame? " I have no idea, I'm afraid. i thought blue would indicate it was burning too hot? "I would still call the gas company..." I agree. But after days of the phone circuits being full I finally got through to be put on hold. Finally they told me they can't help so I guess it's do it yourself or repair guy. She did say it sounds like a vent not working so I guess I'll goof around outside later. Thanks everybody for the suggestions. Sunny

Heat Loss in High Wind Locations

2008-08-22 12:18:21

Greetings... Does anybody have information on how to estimate the additional heat loss (i.e. need for a bigger furnance) for homes in high wind locations? Any idea on construction practices that will limit this heat loss? Joel

fireplace again

2008-08-22 10:37:18

I turned the fireplace completely off using the instructions I found down beneath it. (At least now I'll know how to turn the pilot light off in the summer. ) Then relight the pilot and then turned the gas back on. I turned it on from the wall switch and it burned yellow for a while then flickered off then on then off for a little while. I turned it off and turned it back on after a while and it light but didn't stay on long. It behaves as if there is air in the gas line, interruptions, not like it's overheating or anything. Here is my wild guess as to what may be going on. Last summer we saw yellow jackets or hornets coming out of the outside vent for the fireplace. I can't see up inside there but we have a real problem with the nests here. Is it possible that they have built nests up in there enough to block the flow of air? I can still try getting through to the gas company but if it's something like that they probably won't deal with it. Does anyone have any idea if this is possibly my problem. I don't want to stand out in the freezing cold to try to open that vent if I'm completely wrong. Since it was able to relight that must eliminate some possibilities? Sunny

[DIY] Air Nailers

2008-08-22 02:56:03

I look forward to hearing this as well I have been looking and they are all so confusing... now add to that the new ones that dpn't need compressors! UGH!!

Air Nailers

2008-08-21 22:46:56

Hi all -- could someone please give me a quick & dirty on some air nailers. I'm not understanding the differences in 15-18 gauge brad nailers,angled vs. straight advantages/disadvantages, & finish nailers. I would like a piece of equipment that can handle household jobs. Such things as baseboards, shoe, crown moldings. Maybe some finishing woodwork or wainscotting, ect.... Also, some advice would be appreciated on whether or not the battery operated (18V) nailers are worth the money? or am I better off with a compressor kit? Thanks for you help John

Pre-Lit Christmas Tree

2008-08-21 17:03:51

Thanks for all the suggestions. OK, this thing was given to me, not purchased. It's a BEAUTIFUL tree, but at least 3 years old. So I can't return it, it's not current season. I've decided to start out by cutting off all the lights that easily are cut off. The others are harder - I think I'm going to loosen some, and whatever is done by tomorrow night is done - then string my new lights and just not plug the old ones in. Next year I'll cut more out. It could have been the wire configuration - and it could have been the way they were plugged in, but I didn't have a good wiring diagram, and honestly, dont' want to put that much more time into it. Thanks everyone for the advice! Maribeth

[DIY] toilet fill valve trouble HELP!!

2008-08-21 10:23:35

Prpbly it's debris in the valve. The valves are cheap so it's a lot easier to replace than try and find the debris. You'll first have to replace the shut off valve which may require a torch and no lead solder. The pipes need to be dry for the solder to set up properly. I just went thru the same issue with a brand new Kohler tolet I installed, worked for a while then started to continually run, changed the valve and it's fine now. Mike

toilet fill valve trouble HELP!!

2008-08-21 00:02:31

I'm hoping someone can direct me, my toilet fill valve will not shut off. No it is not the flapper, the tank fills up and just keeps on filling. The water level is over the float and goes down the overflow tube while the little hose that fills the bowl keeps going also. My brother put a new fill valve in 3 days ago--a fluid master--and it was working fine until the water was shut off to the house for a short while today. I have tried turning the water on and off to dislodge any debris in the seal but it is not working, my additional problem is the handle for the shut off below the toilet broke off. My plan is to put in a new shut off valve (hopefully not too difficult) and replace the water line from the shut off to the tank. Then see if that helps before replacing the fill valve again. I'm looking for pointers, advice, instructions on how to do this :D pretty much anything I can get. My brother is back in Florida so he can't really help. thanks suzie

Naturcor Vinyl Flooring?

2008-08-20 16:37:14

We're going to put new flooring over our 35 year old adhesive tiles in our basement. It's about 1400 sq. ft. so we're looking for something reasonably inexpensive. The floor is very cold down there so we don't want tile. I saw some vinyl flooring called Naturcor by FlooringAMERICA.com - I don't know who manufactures it - it seems to be theirs exclusively. It's different than anything I've seen - it's a 115 gauge thick polyurethane with a 15 mil top layer that comes in 13'2" rolls. It has a layer of foam that makes it warm and cushy. It doesn't have to glued down - it just floats over the existing floor. It has a 20 year warranty against fading, staining, discoloration, ripping, tearing, etc. It runs about $2.30 a square foot. Has anybody used it? Since it's new it doesn't seem to have a track record. Are there similar products out there? It's nice that you can just roll it up if the basement floods - every year or two there is one spot where moisture comes up if it rains a whole lot.

New Member Introduction

2008-08-20 15:07:12

Hi All, I just joined the group and wanted to provide a quick intro. I'm five months from retiring from the US Navy after 27 years. I'm stationed at Naval Air Systems Command, located on NAS Patuxent River, MD but will be retiring to our home in Slidell, LA. No projects underway yet since we're (the wife and I) living in an apartment until we relocate back to the Gulf Coast, but I have quite a number of self-help projects planned for the house. I'm looking forward to benefiting from the experiences, good and bad, from all the group members. Weston Anderson

[DIY] Re: gas fireplace gone out

2008-08-20 01:07:44

Thanks for the help on the fireplace. As far as I can tell this fireplace is completely enclosed with only a on/off switch and fan switch on the wall. I can't see any other adjustments or knobs. I've never turned the pilot light out because I can't see any way of doing it. I think I should be turning that out in the summer. It puts out heat. I've been trying to call the gas company but their phone lines are so tied up the recording just says to try some other time. Must be that time of year. Glad it's not an emergency. Wish it was something simple I could figure out though. Sunny

Electrical question...

2008-08-19 19:42:12

Hello everyone, Over Thanksgiving I had family staying at my house. There were two hair dryers running at the same time, one in the basement, one on the second floor (a 3 level town house), at the sink outlet in the bathrooms. Both hair dryers stopped working at the same time. I checked the breaker box, nothing flipped to off. I flipped each switch individually from on-to off-to on, still no power at the outlets. I have 3 bathrooms. Remember the hair dryers were in two of the three. All three bathrooms have dead outlets at the sinks. Only one of the three outlets in question have the reset switch built into them, so I know those need to be replaced. The hair dryers work on other outlets throughout the house, so I know they aren't broken. Nothing else (i.e. lamps etc) work in the sink outlets. Any suggestions??? How can I tell if the fuse is actually blown? The townhouse was built in 1987. Thanks!! Steve

Roof, Siding, Windows - Install in any order?

2008-08-19 19:34:57

I need to replace my roof and it already has three layers of shingles. My windows are drafty so I would like to replace them. My siding is a hideous color and I would love to replace them. I don't have the money to do all three at once. Does it make sense to do the roof first, then window, then siding. I would think the ideal way would be windows, siding, then roof. Does the order matter? Thanks, Rob

Wood burning Stove

2008-08-19 12:38:16

I would like to buy a wood burning stove that will heat a min. of 1000sq.ft and a max of 2000 sq.ft. The stoves I seen are very costly. ( Installation is another charge.) Does anyone know if buying used stoves is ok?

5 in 1 Tools

2008-08-19 11:07:56

I am looking for gift ideas - what 5 in 1 tool are you referring to? Any recommendations? Thanks, Peg

Need advice for remodeling/add on

2008-08-19 01:51:29

Hi all... We'd really like to remodel our home and add on, but we have no idea to start, what it would cost, etc. I drew up some before and afters to give you some idea of what we'd do. They are in the Photos as "Jaime's Dream Renovation" I'm probably in dream land but would really like to know what it would take to get this done. Family is growing and we do not want to move, but need extra room. Thanks much for you help.... Happy Holidays Jaime

Crib Dock Construction

2008-08-18 11:51:26

Greetings... I wish to build a crib dock on a river. It will be large...aproximately 1000 SF of deck surface. I'd LOVE to communicate with anyone that has experience building crib docks! Joel

gas fireplace gone out

2008-08-18 09:57:36

The fire went out in my gas fireplace shortly after I turned it on. Now it won't turn on (light) at all. I can still feel some heat on the upper part of the glass enclosure as if maybe the pilot light is still on. Although I thought the pilot light would be down near the fake logs. I suppose I need to call the gas company? Or is there something simple I can do? Sunny

wood finish question

2008-08-18 06:16:29

Hi all, I just started a project and would appreciate any advice on staining and finishing wood. I am making new doors for kitchen cabinets out of aspen. What stain and varnish should I use, please be specific about brands and kinds - I am clueless about this stuff but would love to avoid mistakes and do it just once. Thanks emma

[DIY] table saws

2008-08-17 19:09:46

----- anyone have an opinion on any of the following saws? Ryobi BT3100 Rigid TS3650 Hitachi C10FL & C10RA2 Craftsman I scratched Ryobi off my list a couple of years ago. I had two Ryobi tools fail striaight out of the box. A friend bought one of their table saws and the motor burned out within a few days. I love Hitachi tools and I also own a Rigid sander that i like. Roy

Pre-Lit christmas tree problem . . . electrician help?

2008-08-17 16:43:46

Hiya, my prelit christmas tree blew it's fuse tonight. So I replaced the fuse . .. and it blew again about 5 minutes after I replaced it. When I unplugged it, the plug was very, very hot. Does this mean there's a short circuit somewhere? This was a VERY expensive tree, and I'm seriously considering just going over the whole thing with wirecutters, snipping off the "prelit" parts, and restringing regular lights . . . should "only" take about 4 hours. Thanks in advance for the help, Maribeth

Great Day to Visit:

2008-08-17 14:35:25

This is a bit off topic, but for those on either coast or in the "Big City" that might be thinking about relocating to the peace and quiet of the flat lands, this would have been a great day to pay us a visit. The skies are gray and over cast, temperatures hovering near freezing and a brisk wind that goes through three layers of clothing like a sharp knife, would quickly convince most visitors that peace and tranquility is not all that it is cracked up to be, and that is exactly why the invitation has been extended. No, we're not anti social but on the other hand, we're not looking to become like Denver or parts of Montana that are "enjoying" out of reach escalation in land and property prices until people can no longer afford to stay in their homes or on the family ranch. We do not welcome the need to move to Siberia on retirement because we can no longer afford to live here. So please accept our invitation to visit us during the depths of winter, the hot dry winds of summer, of preferably during on of our infamous tornados. Trinity excepted of course because she'd never realize what was going on around her anyway and we could tell her anything, so she would fit right in and no one would know that she was an immigrant, besides she's too broke to hurt our local economy by very much. Feeling a bit sarcastic and cynical at the moment. Dale

Hidden Doors:

2008-08-17 05:58:22

After having given some thought to this subject, I recall a hidden door that had been installed in a game room in Perry, Oklahoma. The gentleman who did the work was a mechanist, welder, and practical joker with a twisted sense of humor. He loved to invite the unsuspecting into the game room and then when they weren't paying attention, make a hasty retreat and watch on a hidden camera as they slowly began to panic looking for the door. Having spent too many years cooped up on a submarine, I did not panic but instead began to try to figure out his technique and the device. His was a sliding door that was mounted on a pair of tracks. One track was curved so that the forward edge of the door would start to slip into its pocket first and when the back edge of the door was at the right point the curve in the track enabled it to trip a spring mechanism that slipped it along its curved track so that it was suddenly flush with the rest of the wall and thus blended in so as to be completely hidden to the unobservant. The trick is to make certain that the surface of the sliding door does not rub so as to leave marks that will give away its presence. It is more common to hide doors behind shelving or swinging cupboards. You might like to look at: www.hiddendoors.com Or do a Google search for hidden doors, I came up with 10 pages of sites on the subject. Dale

Need advice restoring hardwood floors

2008-08-16 23:12:40

My home was built in 1941 and had hardwood floors when we bought the place 25 years ago. When we started having our children, we thought carpet would be better all around, so the hardwood has been covered up for 25 years, until today. When I pulled the carpet up, I found big dark spots, caused from spills that soaked through the carpet, and we've house broken two pupies. I'm wondering if I can restore the floors to their original beauty? I'm pretty sure most of the floor is restorable, but those dark places look like trouble to me. Thanks in advance. Patrick

Sliding hidden doors

2008-08-16 15:21:20

Hey gang Im not new at do it yourself have been doing it almost all of my life (got tired of paying to have it fixed so started reading & doing.. But I need help and not ashamed to admit??? Im getting ready to redo my kitchen and making a room behind my kitchen a walk in Pantry . I need info on a hidden roller door ??? Does any one have info or advice Please James R. Wellman Sr. craftyones2000@... craftyones2000@... Thank You

Mistery hardware In the photo section

2008-08-16 14:53:10

That's no mistery !! It is a door handle with a place for a door knob or a dead bolt !!

putting on a new roof

2008-08-16 09:16:59

one of my friends offered to lend me his air powered roofing nailer. But I am not sure I want to use it. I have always been used to using hot dipped roofing nails that you hand nail on. they are grey colored because of the heavy zinc coating and they last forever. I am planning to use some expensive shingles with a life span of around 40 years. I looked at the coil of nails that they use in the air/nailer and they do not impress me. They look like they will last only a couple of years,,,they look like they will start rusting the day after I put them on. They have that gold looking color as like they are only painted with some varnish. what does the group know? or think?

before i buy (windows)

2008-08-15 20:21:18

i am hoping to buy a friend of the family's house. its in desperate need of windows. i will ultimately buy them on ebay.(im addicted) i need to know what brand, model of double hung, what the best buy? i want reasonable energy star efficiency for a reasonable price. also where can i find a "how-to" replace them myself.

[DIY] Digest Number 1466

2008-08-15 19:59:00

It won't say "series" or "parallel" because no one would know what that meant. The parallel ones always have something like "if one bulb burns out, the rest stay lit" on the box. -- --jmowreader

Shower Pan Suppliers?

2008-08-15 11:37:21

Hey Everyone...just checking to see if anyone out there has had any experience buying from any of the online shops for shower pans. Got one quote today from Faucet.com, and looking to hear good/bad experiences if anyone has had them. Please pass on any good contacts you may have out there! I'm looking for a decent quality white, 60"x36" (can go narrower if neccessary) left drain. That "left drain" seems to be the real limiter in the equation. Still waiting to hear from my buddy if he can cut slabs...then I can go center drain. BTW...the Home Depot "Master Bath" vanity we ordred two weeks ago (almost to the day) arrived today. Bob

[DIY] lap siding over asbestos????

2008-08-15 09:39:19

RL, You might want to try to rent a nail gun. The force it would exert would make for a cleaner entry. Also, you might want to have a hose around when you begin as a safety measure. Wetting asbestos down is supposed to eliminate most of the trouble with fibers becoming airborne and lodging in the lungs. Joe

lap siding over asbestos????

2008-08-14 19:10:24

We are wanting to put lap siding over existing asbestos siding. We want to know if we just pound nails right through the asbestos underneath. Wont that just shatter and fall apart behind the new lap siding we put on?? Thanks RL

Pre-lit trees

2008-08-14 14:51:53

I am putting up my Christmas lights and finally found a way that I like to hang them. I have two questions: how many strings of lights can you put up before you have to install an extra circuit box? I've seen the pre-lit trees at most of the stores now and thought it would be nice to have it already done, but after going over sets of lights for hours trying to find the loose one that made the whole set go out, I'm wondering if the pre-lit trees can be a problem. It would seem that if one of those lights gets loose, it would be a real bear to hunt down and fix. Does anyone have a pre-lit tree and how do you like it? Joan

Bathroom vent

2008-08-14 11:25:42

I am contemplating putting in a vent in my bathroom. The problem is I don't know where the wiring is. I don't want to tear the entire wall down just to find it. Any ideas how to tie into the electrical fairly easy. Thanks. MC

weak spot in floor

2008-08-14 06:24:47

Hi all, I've got an older home (1940's) with a floor furnace in the hallway. I've noticed on one side of the furnace the floor is getting pretty weak (sagging and movement when stepped on). Does anybody have a good idea about what I can do to help support this a bit more? There is a crawlspace underneath the house but its rather difficult for me to get into (small space + large man = ugly sight) so I was hoping for something I could do from above. Im also working on a pretty limited budget. The current floor is made of tounge and grove boards. I was thinking of just laying down some plywood on top of this (its a short hallway) and recarpeting, but don't know if this would work... please any ideas would be appreciated. Kris

[DIY] Water Leak

2008-08-13 21:32:25

I had a weird experience with this problem a few years ago. My wife and i both noticed that the floor was unusually warm in a certain spot. We noticed walking over the spot barefooted. It turned out to be a hot water line going to the master bath leaking under the slab. I disconnected the line at the water heater and rerouted it throught the attic and down the wall using copper pipe. Maybe you could pump hot water through your system and then use one o f those remote reading (about 75 bucks) infrared thermometers to find the leak...... Roy

Water Leak

2008-08-13 19:34:45

Does anyone out there have any idea's regarding finding a water leak under a concrete slab ?

[DIY] Compressors and Nailer systems: Recommendation

2008-08-13 07:35:39

Tim, I have purchased quite a bit of tools and equipment through Amazon as I am building my now home and stocking up my new woodworking shop and have had very positive experiences with Amazon. Ray

SPECIAL NOTICE...

2008-08-13 02:50:43

Hello everyone. This message is mostly for the moderators. I just wanted to let you all know that I will not have access to my computer for about a week, (hopefully less than that). I put myself of special notice. I will be back soon! Have a great week everyone! Adriana

hi...new here (advice please)

2008-08-13 01:34:05

Hi everyone. This is my first time posting here. My name is Stacy and I am married and have a 6 yr old daughter. We are owned by 5 dogs, 2 cats, 2 fish and 2 turtles. We are preparing a home project for the Christmas break. Our main sewer line backed up a few days ago and we had to pull up the carpet in the front room and hallway and the vinyl tiles in the bathroom. This house is a total fixer upper. We are planning on acid staining the concrete floors in the house and I was wondering if anyone had any experience/advice. I am also going to have to sand the walls in the bathroom down because my mother (this was her house) decided to paint the walls pepto bismol pink and mix some texture stuff into the paint. We have a ton of projects on the list for this house. I am looking forward to learning a lot from you guys. Stacy

Electric or Propane Oven and costs

2008-08-12 18:39:10

I am thinking of having a line run for a propane tank for cooking purposes. I would do this part myself, but want to have the work done by a pro and inspected by the code official for safety purposes. I will do the oven and range intall myself. Now, I hate electric ranges and ovens. Always burn food on the bottom in the oven!! However, the oven is about 12 years old. So, my question is...is it worth changing to a propane fueled oven and range? Or have the electrics been upgraded enough to allow better cooking? If I do have the propane line installed...any ideas on costs? Thanks again for any help! Tom

DIY Small Engine Repair Question

2008-08-12 16:37:32

I know this list is mainly for DIY on house repairs, so I hope this is not off topic. I have an MTD leaf blower (AirSweeper) that was given to me by my father in-law. He said it had been working but it would no longer start and if I wanted to try to fix it, it was mine. Now this is the kind of leaf blower on wheels, not the backpack kind, so I thought it worth a try. The machine will start with starter fluid, but won't continue to run. I have dropped the gas tank and cleaned the filter on the intake. And replaced the gaskets between the carb and gas tank and between teh carb and engine. Any idea why this machine won't run? It seems like maybe it cannot get fuel to the engine since it runs on starter fluid for a few seconds but does not contine. Any suggestions appreciated.

[DIY] Digest Number 1462

2008-08-12 00:53:48

Hmmm ... well, since pneumatic means that something is powered by air, wouldn't this be an air-powered nailing machine? - Ela

Attic kneewall - structural or not?

2008-08-11 18:55:46

I have a finished attic that I want to renovate. Nothing really major - just remove some non-load-bearing walls to open up the space. Currently, there are kneewalls with 2x4 studs at about 16" spacing, which I want to remove and replace with doubled 2x4 studs at 36" spacing. This will let me put access doors along the entire length of the wall. Originally, I thought the kneewalls had been added when the attic was finished, and weren't load-bearing. After tearing down the old drywall so I can replace the roof insulation, I'm not so sure. I know that sometimes kneewalls are structural, helping to support the roof rafters, and sometimes they're not. How can I determine if it would be OK to remove them for a couple of days? some particulars attic floor joists: 2x6, 25 foot span, load bearing wall at midpoint (downstairs) roof rafters: 2x6, 15 foot span, 9:12 pitch. 2x4 collarties at about 1 foot below ridge roof: tongue&groove plank deck, asphalt shingle kneewalls: 4' high, 2x4 top & bottom plates attached directly to rafters and joists Thanx for your help Buck

whirlpool care and use manual

2008-08-11 17:58:30

Just purchased a lightly used whirlpool supre capacity 465 range. Anyone know where I could obtain the Care and Use Manual. larry

paints

2008-08-11 11:15:56

can someone explain to me what is the difference between varnish and shelak?

Ceiling Fan Question

2008-08-11 09:54:05

I am empty handed after a long attempt trying to find info on a Homestead ceiling fan. Ceiling fan was in place in den when we bought house. Nice looking but does not have light fixture. Want more light in room but find that I do not know where to begin attaching a light fixture to this unit. Replaced all the light fixtures in the other fans throughout the house but all had previous light fixtures and it was as simple. Black with blue and white with white; the Wires had already been identified for me. How can I go about adding a light fixture to this fan? Any websites that can help me do this? Thank you in advance for your help. Andrea in Houston

Trinity:

2008-08-11 01:42:25

I guess I've lost your e-mail address in my address book, please drop me a note off group so that I can recover it. Dale When I was born I was so surprised I didn't talk for a year and a half. Gracie Allen (1906 - 1964) I

Another Insulation ?

2008-08-10 11:49:28

If all goes well, through the auspices of a friend of a friend with a new window company to promote--I may be getting FREE replacement windows for all 12 of the windows in my sunroom/sleeping porch. The room is not currently insulated, but the current windows are a pocket- type (lamentably WAY too far gone to restore) which will leave an open space between the interior & exterior walls when the windows are torn out. Doesn't look like additional insulation will be in the free package, but was wondering if I could slide batting or the rigid foam insulation into the space without interfering with the window installation? Thanks, Marci

Home Network: Plenum or PVC Cables

2008-08-10 06:00:03

For networking my house, should I use plenum or PVC cabling? I notice the plenum is much more expensive, and I believe that I have PVC cable for the phones already. Can I use PVC cable? What is the intended use of plenum cable? Scott

As long as we're on the subject

2008-08-10 04:42:03

I lost my 12" pipe wrench under my house in Fontana Ca. back in the 60s. Any body find it yet ?? The house was gone when I got back to it!! Don't ask !! LOL

[DIY] bathroom heat fan

2008-08-09 22:20:47

Even the ones that use that LightBulb?

bathroom heat fan

2008-08-09 17:53:15

Can someone tell me how difficult it is to replace a ceiling fan in the bathroom with one of those lightbulb heat fans ? Sorry I don't know what they are called. Or give a link where it explains installation. I need to replace current fan and thought this might be a good idea.

Insulation - as long as we're on the subject

2008-08-09 11:15:34

I have a house with only a little insulation in the attic. There is no vapor barrier. I have resisted adding more insulation to the attic because of that lack of a vapor barrier. Am I worrying about nothing? John

Circuit box problems-- a prayer answered!

2008-08-09 06:58:10

I still don't have my breaker box problem repaired that I mentioned a while back, but haven't burnt up yet. Our local fire department was giving away free smoke detectors recently & I mentioned to the fire fighter why I was so concerned about having good ones. Bless his heart, he had connections at the local electrical workers union-- several electricians are coming to check out the problem this weekend as a community service project and think they can even get any equipment I need replaced, donated as well! I had one electrician out and his estimate was way beyond my league (and no way to borrow to cover), several others gave me similar estimates over the phone based on his description of the work needed-- so this is a real Godsend! Many thanks to all here who alerted me how potentially dangerous a problem I had, or I probably would have done a Scarlett O'Hara until we turned into crispy critters! Marci

Insulation in attic of home with a slate roof?

2008-08-08 18:46:59

Our home is an old farmhouse who's roof is partially *2/3rds of it* made of slate. The section that is slated DESPERATELY needs insulation. We removed the old that was there because it was water damaged...it was up against the roofing wood and the roof leaked and damaged the insulation. The roof is all fixed *over $14,000 later we are set for the next 80 years, Lord willing!*, so now it is time to insulate. Here is the scenario: The attic is a walk up, so there are wooden tongue and groove boards up there as flooring on part of the attic. In one part we can easily put in roll out insulation on the floor, for that area needs to be floored out. This is all going to be storage for at least a good while. Someday, I would LOVE to finish out the attic for an extra room *read that as my office*. What would be best for the ceiling? Should we do blown in insulation under the floor boards, and double our insulation by putting in rolled in the ceiling, with the type that has a covering on one side, so that we can eventually put up drywall? I had heard from one person that it wasn't the best idea to put typical rolled insulation against the interior of a slated roof, something to do with how the roof *breathes*. Not sure what the true reason of that is. Appreciate the advice. The heating costs last year about busted us...my aim is to deal with that now that we have the roof fixed, in addition to putting insulation in the cellar and putting a vapor barrier under the crawl space areas along with insulation. Kathie...who would appreciate a lower heating bill and a warmer house in winter *G*

Residential Network Cabling

2008-08-08 15:48:11

I am going to run some cable to a couple rooms in the house. Obviously that means it is going to go through the walls and the attic. Does that mean I need to use plenum cable? Or can I get away with using PVC cable? Thanks, Scott

Blown-in insulation

2008-08-08 14:53:07

Well, I'm discovering the "joys" of no insulation in my new (64- years old) home. I have someone coming this evening to give me an estimate on new windows, but am wondering about doing the insulation myself. How difficult is it to do? Can my two teenagers and I do it ourselves? How messy a project is it? My house has plaster walls so I am wondering if that will make it more difficult. Any advice is most appreciated! Thanks, Colleen

Crown Molding

2008-08-08 07:49:13

SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!!!!!! I have managed to chop up about 8' of some expensive crown molding tring to get a correct fit on just one corner. I have a desk with book shelfes that I built into a wall in the basement, in a corner. Along the top edge I wanted to put crown to dress it up. I have a center section that 45's across the corner for a PC monitor. So each side of the desk meets this center section at a 45 degree angle. I am using 45/45 crown. I need to figure out what miter and bevel to set on the saw. I don't have a protracter to figure out the angle between the desk and center section so I am flying blind here. If someone could get a rough setting for me I could fine tune to fit. Thanks

Need recomendations for Stud Finders and Laser Levels

2008-08-07 22:06:50

On Monday, Nov 15, 2004, at 18:16 US/Eastern, <hrobertsr@... They do different things. Laser levels are for making sure things are straight--they're excellent for things like hanging pictures in a row. Stud finders are for making sure you hit the stud when you hang the pictures. My favorite stud finders have AC cable detectors in them, which keeps you from accidentally driving a nail into a live wire. They've also got stud finders out that search for the middle of the stud, which is kinda cool. As long as you stay away from absolute dirt cheap, you're fine; however, given this, I've been using a Stanley I bought for $14 for quite a few years, and it's been good. I've also seen combination laser level/stud finders. I wouldn't buy one; this is because when you use them together, the laser level is attached to the wall, where it stays until the job is done, while the stud finder is moved to find the studs. There are four kinds of laser levels. The first is the Laser Line Generator. If you can imagine taking a five-dollar gas-station-grade laser pointer, sticking a suction cup on the side of it and putting a $34.95 price tag on it, you know what a Laser Line Generator is. It doesn't level at all, it just produces laser light. I don't even know if Straight-Line still makes this, because we ran out on purpose quite a few months ago--we looked at the thing, looked at the new $25 laser levels coming out, decided it wasn't a SKU we wanted to keep, and clearanced it. The most-purchased laser level type is the single-beam laser level. Take that thing you made in the last paragraph, glue a bubble level to the side of the laser pointer, and you have a laser level. This is now a useful tool. Most of them contain two bubble levels--one for horizontal and one for vertical. Some of them have the laser floating on a pivot; there's a weight on the laser that pulls it either exactly horizontal or exactly vertical. If you hate bubble levels, this is a good kind to get. I've also seen three-beam laser levels--left, right and up. If anyone can explain this one to me, please do. The last and most expensive kind is the 360-degree laser level. You put this level on a tripod in the middle of the room, kick it on, and a motor-driven prism projects a beam of light all the way around your room. It is useful for trim carpenters most of all; you can level up a piece of chair rail so quick and pretty with one of these... How to buy any of these tools: if you don't have a specific need in mind--like chair rail, or fencing work--just go to the store, play with the instruments, and buy the one you like best. -- --jmowreader

Adding Circuits

2008-08-07 17:27:37

Hi All, My main electrical panel has a 50A circuit that used to power an electric range. The range is gone so I disconnected the breaker. Is there any reason I can't add 3 15A breakers if I'm removing a 50A? There's plenty of room in the panel.

Humor is Healthy

2008-08-07 14:00:11

Hello Fellow Members, I try to read all the post I can to see if I can assist some members in their needs for some professional assistents. However I've about read all the Lowes and Home Depot verbel wars I can take in one life time. So I thought possablly we might have brake for post-to-post combat and try something to ease the battle wounds some. True, this will not be a peace treaty as there will always be some die hards that will not surrender their flag at any cost. But maybe it will at least hold off every shell that can be fired. "A priest and a pastor were fishing alone side a road one day, and thought it would be helpful to post a sign for all passing drivers of automobiles. This they did. The sign read: "THE END IS NEAR!!! Stop and turn around before you come to the end." One of the two clergymen would hold up and show the sign to any auto driver as they passed. An auotmobile was approching an one of the ministers grabed the sign and held it up for the driver to clearly see the wording. The driver was angered by the ministers and yelled out of the window: "Why dont you two just mind your own business and leave other people alone. We will make up our own minds as to what we will do." The driver then burned rubber leaving the ministers in dust and smoke. In just a few moments the ministers heard the squeeling of rubber again followed by a terrable crash of the automobile. One of the ministers turned to the other and said: "Maybe we should have just said bridge out ahead, on the sign." Well the moral of this short funny is no not all will turn or stop the Lowes/HD road, but "could just change the sign!" Lowes and HD: I don't think, "THE END IS NEAR!!!" Trouble Maker member, jdb

can't find Tub/Shower size

2008-08-07 06:17:32

I have a home that was built in 1977. My plan is to replace the wallpaper in my daughter's bathroom with paint. After taking the wallpaper off I noticed that there was no green board lining the shower/tub. Thinking I could replace the tub/shower and sheetrock I went to Home Dept and Lowe's, but both did not have the size tub/shower that I need (58x72x30). My next thought was to paint a couple of coats of Kills over the existing sheetrock to protect it, but I've already noticed a few places where the sheetrock is crumbling. Any suggestions? Carlton.

Another page posted on our project

2008-08-06 23:25:29

We have taken a moment from our hectic activities to add one page to our web site. www.mountainviewdome.com Under CONSTRUCTION go down to the NEWEST PAGES: and click on WALLS. Not a lot there yet (yes I know there is a cow missing - have no idea where he went) We have a lot of additional pages to be added and hope to get up to date in the near future. For now we are concentraighting on getting things done so we can get our occupancy letter and move out of the trailer and into our dome home. Hey - anyone looking for a great 5th wheel trailer? We are willing to discount it if we can get it off the property soon. Let us know if interested and we will send some info. Ray & beth

Interior wall go up at MountainviewDome

2008-08-06 18:47:46

We have taken a moment from our hectic activities to add one page to our web site. www.mountainviewdome.com Under CONSTRUCTION go down to the NEWEST PAGES: and click on WALLS. Not a lot there yet (yes I know there is a cow missing - have no idea where he went) We have a lot of additional pages to be added and hope to get up to date in the near future. For now we are concentraighting on getting things done so we can get our occupancy letter and move out of the trailer and into our dome home. Hey - anyone looking for a great 5th wheel trailer? We are willing to discount it if we can get it off the property soon. Let us know if interested and we will send some info. Ray & beth

sheetrock above shower

2008-08-06 05:56:21

I have to replace the sheetrock above our shower(because of damage from the attic) and I was wondering if it has to be treated for water? Since it is in the shower it will constantly be damp if not outright wet. Will paint by itself protect it or is there something else that needs to be done? Thanks for the help! Mitch

Hello???

2008-08-06 05:48:15

Just wondering if this is getting through. I recently joined & have posted twice, but my messages have not appeared! Dee

Cleaning cement dust from Pavestones?

2008-08-06 01:44:08

Wow...that's beautiful! Not so sure how mild a chemical will work...but I think muriatic acid will do the trick...perhaps diluted with water. Try it on a scrape paver. An additional thought...I'd be really inclined to contact HD and/or the installer and have them solve the problem. In my (not so) humble opinion, it is their responsibility. It is a reasonable expectation on your part that pavers installed outside would be able to survive rain! Seems to me the finger should be pointed at the folks who did not thoroughly clean the pavers. Joel

My two least favorite words

2008-08-05 13:39:40

Square footage. A lot of my customers believe "square footage" can be used for calculating any kind of building material need. Not so. An example: You're building a countertop for a cabinet you made yourself, and it's going to have a ceramic tile surface. You did some measurements and found out you need 32 square feet of material to build the top. Off to a home store, where your first stop is the tile department. You get 288 four-inch tiles, some thinset, some grout, a notched trowel and a grout float. So far so good. The helpful tile associate tells you that your project would be much nicer if you used backerboard under the tile, so you get three sheets of it. Backerboard comes in 3-by-5 sheets--that's 45 square feet, not 32, so you'll have a little waste. But so far, not a big problem. Now to lumber to get some plywood. A sheet of plywood contains 32 square feet--perfect! Get one and go home. What you didn't tell anyone is that your 32-square-foot countertop is 12 feet long by 32 inches wide. If you try to do this with one sheet of plywood, you'll be piecing together a third of the surface. That takes a while and it's not very strong. The very best construction is done with as few seams as possible. In this case, I would take two sheets of plywood, rip them to 32 inches, and miter one end of each. Lay the miters together with construction adhesive in between, and you'll have a very strong countertop. Then just cut it down to 12 feet long and you're done. There are two other products you can't do by square footage--insulation and fencing. Insulation first. Say you're doing a 160-square-foot wall. If that wall is 8 feet high, you need 15 batts, or strips, of insulation that are 93 inches long. These days, a lot of insulation is sold in 93-inch batts. A bag of R-13 batt insulation has 11 batts in it, an Owens-Corning miniroll has enough to make four batts, so you're golden--one bag of each. If that wall is only six feet high (part of a bonus room) you will need 20 batts to deal with the problem. If you want to be cheap about it, you could save all the little hunks and staple three of them into one space. If you want to be smart about it, get two bags of batt insulation, insulate the wall then peel the little hunks off their vapor barrier and stuff them around your windows. This will save you money in the long run--I don't think there is such a thing as "too much" insulation. Fencing is the best one. A couple came in this summer and asked for fencing sufficient for a "2000 square foot area." 40 by 50? Okay, so you need 180 linear feet of fencing. Right? Well...no one told me that they needed to go around six big oaks, around a pump house, around a barn...turned out they needed something like 350 feet of fencing. (And a 2000-sf area doesn't always have a 180-foot perimeter; a 100 by 20 area also contains 2000 square feet, but it has a 240-foot perimeter. A 200-by-10 area needs 420 square feet, and so on and so forth. And yes, I have seen 200-by-10 fenced areas--I built one for a motorcycle dealer who uses it to park repaired bikes.) Roofing you can kinda do so long as you're working with three-tab shingles. If you're using architectural shingles (they have two shingles glued together; the top shingle has cutouts in it that give the shingle a nice look) you really can't because you need three kinds of shingles: the architectural shingles for the roof deck, three-tab shingles to use as a starter strip, and ridge cap shingles to go across the peak of the roof. You especially need the length of the ridge because the ridge cap shingles are too expensive to overbuy and the last thing you want to do on a roofing project is crawl off the roof and go back to the dealer because you ran out of materials. Concrete can definitely be purchased by the square foot, because it's fluid when you pour it. Moral of this story: When you go to buy things, take the length and width of what you need, not just the square footage. We will thank you. -- --jmowreader

OT: Is anyone else getting a LOT of messages from "Earthlink"?

2008-08-05 11:20:54

Recently, I've been deluged with "phishing" messages from someone claiming to be Earthlink. Here's what they all say: Folks, don't fall for this. Phishing is a technique criminals use to attempt to get credit card numbers. (My Internet bill is part of my phone bill; I get my DSL connection, Earthlink account, local voice phone service and 100 minutes long distance as a package for about $80 per month.) For the hell of it, I clicked on the link just to see where it went--I didn't even wait for the page to load before closing the window--and found that it goes to an address that just uses an IP number as a URL. Trust me on this: Earthlink is very good at maintaining your records. They don't need you to update them. I got another phishing message today and it was pretty good: a bank in Nevada said I needed to update my records with them or they were going to close my account. I've never even been to Nevada, and I surely don't open bank accounts by phone. -- --jmowreader

Lexus versus Mercedes... versus Chevy

2008-08-05 07:54:23

Our local home improvement store is known as The Hardware Store which is owned by Darrell. Its here in our small farming town, located right on the town square (after that there is a Farm & Home and a Lumberyard about 35 miles away. The closest Home Depot/Lowes/Menards stores are over 60 miles away for us). So we go to Darrell's and get chastised for just walking in the door. "What do YOU want?" Don't even think about looking around the dirty store for what you want, either. That makes Darrell nervous. You will hear "WHAT do you want?" Then you hear this, "What do ya need it for?" And if you stutter, hesitate, or show any kind of fear he will smell it. Then he will sell you everything you may or may not need for the job you are doing. Not that you can find anything anyway, the store shelves are kept in no particular order. Just so the customer doesn't try to get away with shopping without Darrell's, uh....assistance. But he has a little bit of everything except lumber. As if this all isn't endearing enough, try being a female going in there. Along with the other common phrases heard at the hardware store, you will also be regaled with "Are YOU sure?" and "YOU'RE doing it by yourself!?!" or "Maybe Danny should come up and get it." (Of course Danny would be my husband's childhood nickname.) Naturally Darrell is never open on Sunday, or lunchtime, or for 2 hours after lunch, or past five PM, or whenever he feels like not opening. But when he does happen to be open at 9AM on a Saturday that a person is in the middle of re-plumbing their entire home and runs out of PVC joints and glue....well, Darrell's comes in handy. Even if he is grossly overpriced and I have an allergy attack just walking in the door from the dust and the resident cat. So, I agree with Tim that those of you comparing your local home improvement stores should count your blessings that you have either one close by instead of The Hardware Store! :-) Kati

Needing help in attic transformation....

2008-08-04 22:51:18

Hello everyone, Well I am like in a bind here. We have 3 children out of 5 that are still living at home with us, and we only have a 3 bedroom house. The girls ages are 16, 13, and 8. Well of course the 16 year old has to have her own room, and now the 13 year old wants her own room. I am in a dilema. We are trying to figure out how to transform our attic into a suitable bedroom for the 16 year old. Their is a light up their but that is it. We will have to put outlets up their, insulate the walls, make some kind of closet, well i guess you can get the picture. We watch all the shows on the TV like In A Fix, Trading Spaces, and so on, and on none of these shows have they ever done an attic. We don't have alot of time to do it in either, as the two that share a room are at each others neck on a daily basis, and the youngest has ADHD, and well she does get into her sister stuff alot. So I can see the need for her wanting her own room. We can't afford to have someone come in here and help us do this project, and well the way my DH works, well he really doesn't have much time to spend on it also. So it leaves me trying to do it myself, while the girls are in school, he's at work, and so on... I really could use some help. Hey if any of you are from Lebanon PA or close and would love to lend a hand give me a snail mail..... We sure could use the help..... I also have to have two cuppy place up their also for storage areas, which are in a way studed out but aren't the 16 inches apart that they should be... Well Please any help or information would be greatly appreciated... Especially considering that I really only have used a hammer, and not many electrical tools....LOL Cheryl.... Desperate Mom in Lebanon PA

[DIY] Re: Mildew vs Rat

2008-08-04 16:13:54

This discussion has reminded me what a bummer it is to have an elusive smell in the house. I think there needs to be a support group for people suffering from this malady:) I'm sort of joking but maybe not huh. Good luck and hang in there. Roy

Ho-De Help

2008-08-04 10:24:31

I live in Utah and I have to say I am very pleased with our store employees. We were finishing our basement and the guy in the electrical section was a licensed electrician. The guy in the plumbing section was a licensed plumber and both helped us tremendously and were right on the money about everything they said. I love that store!! I love even walking and smelling the lumber. My hiubby and I have quite a few date nights walking through the aisles. Nobody who knows me believes it. I am very girlie and proper I guess. LOL I have had good luck at Lowes too, for the most part. The only bad advise I got at Ho-De was when I was looking for a mirror of a certain size and couldn't find one. The employee told me to just get a piece of glass and paint it black. "That's all a mirror is" he said. I tried to tell him it was not and he wouldn't listen. I hope no one else fell for that and bought glass and paint. I just shook my head and left. LOL Joan

screws

2008-08-04 05:44:13

my husband bought some screws to put in some new plaster. i noticed that they are different. some have big threads and some have small threads and we really don't know the difference.

Estimating Residential Construction Costs

2008-08-03 23:46:19

Greetings... I plan to DIY build a large garage (3 cars plus work area) and a 2000SF house. I need to make a reasonably accurate estimate of the costs. How do you reccommend this be done? Has anyone used guides from R.S.Mean? Is there software to help do this? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Joel

[DIY] Customer Service:

2008-08-03 16:44:43

You are right the employee and those are great suggestions and do work in many instances... an employee could be having a bad day for reasons unknown.... In the area we recently moved to it is more of the area thing where we were prior the HD was marvelous.. Here the Lowes is. Probably location has a lot to do with it how each store is. When managers have attitudes and HQ do to it filters down to the floor workers and stockers etc.

Customer Service:

2008-08-03 10:22:32

One of the first things I ask myself when I enter a large outlet like HD or Lowes is " would I be willing to do what they are doing for what they are probably getting paid?" and then I go from there. If the employees are wearing name tags, I always try to call them by name and a smile goes a long way, cause everyone craves to be recognized for who they are. Many employees are either students trying to earn a way through school, or many times they are single mothers who would really rather be somewhere else. In stores that I frequent, I try to notice the employees that are there on a regular basis, and if possible try to learn something of significance about the individual so that there will be a conversation opener the next time I see them, you would be amazed at how much it means when you take the time to remember and ask later about some little thing in someone else's life. If the young lady was pregnant the last time you were in, how is that new baby doing. Just little things can mean so much. Even when I'm in a hurry, I try not to be so rushed that courtesy takes a back seat, for in reality, the people business is the only business of any worth that most of us are in. I guess the short and the long of the story is that I do not expect to be any better treated than the consideration that I am willing to render. After a while courtesy and a personal interest in others becomes a habit that has served me well over the years. Now I know my system might not work for everyone else, but it has worked for me, and so I'll keep with it until it proves to be no longer worth the bother, but then again it really isn't a bother at all. Dale When I was born I was so surprised I didn't talk for a year and a half. Gracie Allen (1906 - 1964) I

[DIY] Thomasville Cabinets?/HD

2008-08-03 03:29:52

FWIW I also have had customer service probs with HD. We no longer do business there and I complained to the Main Headquarters about our local store and they also had an attitude of I don't really care. We now go to Lowes or OSH instead. where we have always had good customer service.

Tileboard Seams

2008-08-02 23:16:19

You're probably going to kill me for this, but here goes: You're missing part of your installation. There are tileboard mouldings, and they come in four profiles: cap moulding, joiner moulding (also called H bar), inside corner and outside corner. The joiner moulding goes between two sheets of tileboard to cover the edges. If you get a piece of joiner moulding, you will note that there are two little grooves in it for the tileboard to slide into. The side of the joiner that goes against the wall is flat, the other is kinda arched. You install this by putting the first sheet against the wall, sliding a joiner onto it then sliding the next sheet into the joiner. The only way I can think of to salvage this installation is to get the joiner moulding, cut the flat side off, and glue the arched side into the gap between two sheets of tileboard with polyurethane construction adhesive--either PL Premium or Sikabond Construction Adhesive. (I like Sika best but you have to go to Home Depot to get it; PL isn't so limited in its distribution. If you choose Sika, it's in the concrete aisle.) -- --jmowreader

[DIY] Mildew (??) smell coming from source unknown

2008-08-02 20:51:54